Other practical concerns - COVID-19

spontaneous said:

I bring eggs out with me when I visit my parents.  Now I’m stuck with ambitious hens and no visiting the family for a few weeks.  We’ve been making cookies, I’m going to try my hand at chocolate mousse next.  But pretty soon I’ll be cooking up scrambled eggs for the dog

 Have you tried freezing them? According to the wisdom of the internet, you can freeze beaten eggs for up to one year.

https://www.incredibleegg.org/eggcyclopedia/f/freezing-eggs/


Heynj said:

Someone raised a concern today I hadn’t even thought of - so many children in so many towns rely on the two meals a day provided in school, often as their only “real” meals. And many students are sent home with a backpack of food for weekends. If schools close, that’s a real concern for a lot of families. Ugh. I heard on NPR that lots of towns in Italy are providing and delivering food to citizens in quarantine, particularly the elderly. I do not imagine our towns are set up for that. 

 The Parenting Center is working on this.  Contact them if you can help with donations or deliveries.  They are also partnering with SOMA Two Towns For All Ages to make food deliveries to seniors.


If you think you have a problem try being a 60+ senior who lives alone and has over protective children who won't even allow you to go food shopping on your own. (They have promised to make deliveries as needed.)  Better yet, try being a 60+ person who lives alone and has no under 60 friends or family in the area who have offered to help out.  With virtually everything shut down and with rising fear coupled with over-protectiveness severely limiting or out right curtailing what socialization outlets these seniors have, how do they stay mentally and physically healthy through all this? 

In answer to the PO's questions, these are valid considerations and only some of the issues each of us will be coping with in the days ahead.  Keep in mind that the aim here is to limit the spread of COVID-19 as much as possible and you should be able to work out what works best in your individual situation.

Regarding school closings, NYC has decided to keep their schools open for the reasons stated above. SOMSD has decided on a more proactive approach.  As I posted above, the parenting center is working to deliver meals to food insecure children in our school district as is a group at the HS which traditionally serves older age students.


This was interesting food for thought:

https://medium.com/@ariadnelabs/social-distancing-this-is-not-a-snow-day-ac21d7fa78b4

It's a bit of a dose of cold water but I think it applies in our community with the school closings.  The author emphasizes the need for discipline in social distancing.  The kids are home from school to prevent lots of cross-exposure. For one thing that will slow the spread of the virus.  For another it helps narrow the search for exposed people if an outbreak should occur.

This doctor is saying if kids are home from school they shouldn't be going to friends' houses for playdates, hangouts or sleepovers.  Adults should refrain going to other peoples' homes as well.


The virus takes 5-11 days (with some outliers as long as 15 days)  to incubate: https://annals.org/aim/article-abstract/2762808/incubation-period-coronavirus-disease-2019-covid-19-from-publicly-reported. A lot of people are likely carrying the virus right now.

Scientists are still working out how long the virus remains infectious on surfaces and in the air: https://abcnews.go.com/Health/covid19-days-surfaces-experiment-findings/story?id=69569397

As joan says above me, this is going to be difficult.  Humans are social animals and around here there's lots of social activity in which to partake.  And we're just starting on social distancing in earnest so it's only going to get harder.  


joan_crystal said:

 The Parenting Center is working on this.  Contact them if you can help with donations or deliveries.  They are also partnering with SOMA Two Towns For All Ages to make food deliveries to seniors.

 This is the contact information from the district website:

The Parenting Center

Ms. Karen Weiland
Elementary Social Worker
e: kweiland@somsd.k12.nj.us
p: (973) 762 - 5600 ext 1850


I just got an email response from Ms Weiland at the Parenting Center.  They have enough donated food right now to meet family needs, but she said she would reach out if they find themselves needing more. So if you want to plan to donate food in the future it probably wouldn't hurt to send her an email and tell her you're willing to help when the need arises.

I didn't ask about the need for volunteers, since at the moment I'm still expecting to be working during the day.


ShopRite, Livingston was finally back to normal today, though some shelves are still pretty bare. No flour to be had. Canned goods very sparse.

Plenty of sardines though.


I'm now wondering if restaurant take out is as safe as the supermarket, if not safer.  A whole chain of hands from truck driver to shelver to cashier is touching your store purchases, plus you're shopping in an increasingly crowded supermarket these days.  How much worse can it be to, say, order a bunch of pies from your favorite pizzeria and freeze the stuff?          


I skipped my trip to the barber last month.... no reason. Just laziness.

Now, I am getting a little bit shaggy. I expect to skip the next two or three months also, because of CV-19.

Luckily, I don't work anywhere, am not applying for work, not in the dating market. So I don't really care what I look like.

So if you see me on the sidewalk and I look shaggy, I apologize. "I'm sorry."  That's because you gotta look at me. I don't. smile



Formerlyjerseyjack said:

I skipped my trip to the barber last month.... no reason. Just laziness.

Now, I am getting a little bit shaggy. I expect to skip the next two or three months also, because of CV-19.

Luckily, I don't work anywhere, am not applying for work, not in the dating market. So I don't really care what I look like.

So if you see me on the sidewalk and I look shaggy, I apologize. "I'm sorry."  That's because you gotta look at me. I don't.
smile

 This is me too.


Klinker said:

Formerlyjerseyjack said:

I skipped my trip to the barber last month.... no reason. Just laziness.

Now, I am getting a little bit shaggy. I expect to skip the next two or three months also, because of CV-19.

Luckily, I don't work anywhere, am not applying for work, not in the dating market. So I don't really care what I look like.

So if you see me on the sidewalk and I look shaggy, I apologize. "I'm sorry."  That's because you gotta look at me. I don't.
smile

 This is me too.

 count me in too.


bub said:

I'm now wondering if restaurant take out is as safe as the supermarket, if not safer.  A whole chain of hands from truck driver to shelver to cashier is touching your store purchases, plus you're shopping in an increasingly crowded supermarket these days.  How much worse can it be to, say, order a bunch of pies from your favorite pizzeria and freeze the stuff?          

I thought about the food containers more than the about the food which was cooked and can be reheated.

Pizza being example where touching the box may possibly transfer the virus to you. When you eat the pizza you're touching the pie and almost your mouth.

Our procedure will be, to open the box and then use utensils to transfer the slices to plates. And then maybe microwave for 30 sec to reheat or hopefully destroy the virus?

Everything's cumbersome. We went food shopping. We cleaned our hands after paying and then wiped our credit cards that were used on payment terminals that did not take tap and go. We put the non-perishables in a box to leave in the garage for two days. With perishables we wiped the containers with clorox wipes and then left them dry before putting in refrigerator.

And after doing all that I realized that we were in very crowded stores. Didn't even think about that when we were in them.

ps - labs preserve viruses by freezing. But I think that's for pure samples that are free of water. Freezing food may preserve or possibly even kill it because of water.


drummerboy said:

Klinker said:

Formerlyjerseyjack said:

I skipped my trip to the barber last month.... no reason. Just laziness.

Now, I am getting a little bit shaggy. I expect to skip the next two or three months also, because of CV-19.

Luckily, I don't work anywhere, am not applying for work, not in the dating market. So I don't really care what I look like.

So if you see me on the sidewalk and I look shaggy, I apologize. "I'm sorry."  That's because you gotta look at me. I don't.
smile

 This is me too.

 count me in too.

 Y’all are amateurs, I haven’t paid for a haircut since fall of 2009


BG9 said:

I thought about the food containers more than the about the food which was cooked and can be reheated.

Pizza being example where touching the box may possibly transfer the virus to you. When you eat the pizza you're touching the pie and almost your mouth.

Our procedure will be, to open the box and then use utensils to transfer the slices to plates. And then maybe microwave for 30 sec to reheat or hopefully destroy the virus?

Everything's cumbersome. We went food shopping. We cleaned our hands after paying and then wiped our credit cards that were used on payment terminals that did not take tap and go. We put the non-perishables in a box to leave in the garage for two days. With perishables we wiped the containers with clorox wipes and then left them dry before putting in refrigerator.

And after doing all that I realized that we were in very crowded stores. Didn't even think about that when we were in them.

ps - labs preserve viruses by freezing. But I think that's for pure samples that are free of water. Freezing food may preserve or possibly even kill it because of water.

 We got pizza delivered the other day. It went into the over at 200 degrees for about 10 minutes, because it's usually not hot enough for my taste when delivered. It would be helpful to know if that was sufficient to deactivate any leftover viral particles.

Unless someone sneezed or coughed on your pizza box you're not likely going to have a problem.


mrincredible said:

 We got pizza delivered the other day. It went into the over at 200 degrees for about 10 minutes, because it's usually not hot enough for my taste when delivered. It would be helpful to know if that was sufficient to deactivate any leftover viral particles.

Unless someone sneezed or coughed on your pizza box you're not likely going to have a problem.

Good idea. Putting the whole box in the oven. Ten minutes will help. I'm sure 200 degrees will help more.

The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention recommends that people take steps to clean and disinfect surfaces. But the durability of some coronavirus on a surface does not mean that it remains just as infectious as the hours go by. Most virus particles degrade in a matter of minutes or hours outside a living host, and the quantity of infectious particles goes down exponentially over time. Although it is theoretically possible for a person to become infected a day or two after someone has deposited virus particles (for example, by sneezing) on a surface, it is much less likely than in the first couple of hours after the sneeze, said Munster.
“The risk of becoming infected via these routes of transmission reduces over time,” Munster said. ‘That window of becoming infected is highest in the first 10 minutes, or one hour or two hours.” He addressed a commonly voiced concern: that a package in the mail may be a vector for the disease. He said that is very unlikely, but added, “There’s never zero risk if the person who gave you the package just sneezed on that package one second ago.”

The best news on this thread is that men will be growing their hair long!


When I would tell my barber "just a little off the sides" -that's because there is hair only on the sides.


OK a lady is chiming in to add that for some of us, it's an opportunity to let the roots grow out and start rocking the grey. I've been thinking of doing that but was worried about the transition - now I don't need to worry because nobody is going to see me except my family.  smile 


I'm not growing a coronabeard.


HatsOff said:

OK a lady is chiming in to add that for some of us, it's an opportunity to let the roots grow out and start rocking the grey. I've been thinking of doing that but was worried about the transition - now I don't need to worry because nobody is going to see me except my family. 
smile
 

 You could always put your hat on.


As far as vet visits go, I just got an email from Westfield Emergency Vets saying they are postponing the usual vaccine/checkup visits, but the Union location is still open for emergencies. IIRC, you have to call first, give them info about the animal and payment info over the phone, they come out to the parking lot to get the animal (owners not allowed inside right now except for critical or euthanasia visits). After they have examined the animal, they call you and discuss what is necessary. For pickup, they will bring the animal outside to you, in parking lot. I don't know if this is indicative of all the vet practices nearby, just letting you know what this one practice is doing. 

It is a scary situation - I am wondering about my dentist visit, too. The hygienist is wearing a mask, but still, I don't think they disinfect the chair or door handles between patients.


My dentist- dr Fried - has cancelled all appointments.


Glad to see that people are staying home.


My dentist's office called today to cancel my appointment in early April.  I would rather be safe and hold off on my semi-annual cleaning while this public health crisis is front page news.


jamie said:

Glad to see that people are staying home.

 Except you.


On the plus side, I went for a deep dive into my closet and came up with 4 N95 masks. Probably got them from Harbor Freight who knows when.

Maybe I should auction them off.


jamie said:

My dentist- dr Fried - has cancelled all appointments.

 Routine appointments, or ALL appointments?  I'd hate to think of someone with an abscessed tooth being unable to get prompt medical care


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