Once again the free speech hating left is trying all means necessary to destroy the right to free speech

Don't like what they said - sue them and extort lots of money:

http://www.nytimes.com/2015/11/07/science/more-oil-companies-could-join-exxon-mobil-as-focus-of-climate-investigations.html


The main article is thin on the legal basis for the investigation but the link provides a little more info. Seems that the AG is pursuing a state securities fraud angle. The idea bring that investors were defrauded by misreps/omissions about the dangers of fossil fuels. The case may or may not be weak but in principle, its the kind of thing the AG is tasked with going after.


This doesn't seem to be a free speech issue.


How is this a free speech issue?


They are using the power of extortion so well honed by the AG's to silence dissenting views form the group think allowed norm.


bramzzoinks said:
They are using the power of extortion so well honed by the AG's to silence dissenting views form the group think allowed norm.

Bull****


Did the Founders give corporations the right to defraud investors? Perhaps that happened on the same day that they decreed that the Megacorps were people.


Klinker said:
Did the Founders give corporations the right to defraud investors? Perhaps that happened on the same day that they decreed that the Megacorps were people.

If corporations have the right to defraud investors, then this would be a free speech issue. They don't, and it isn't.

Try again.


The theory is similar to what led to the successful tobacco company lawsuits years ago.


bramzzoinks said:
Don't like what they said - sue them and extort lots of money:
http://www.nytimes.com/2015/11/07/science/more-oil-companies-could-join-exxon-mobil-as-focus-of-climate-investigations.html

Are the cattlemen who sued Oprah for slandering meat part of "The Left"?



Not really. The tobacco lawsuit was imo thin justification but it said that there was an increase in government paid health care costs because the tobacco companies said things in public different from what they new to be true about the health impact of smoking.

Here it is even thinner because the claim is that investors were harmed by statements doubting global warming made by the oil companies. What harm? Oil stocks are most impacted by oil prices. When oil prices go up they go up. When oil prices go down they go down.

The threats by the AG's is terrorism and extortion. Pure and simple.


Terrorism? Did the AG threaten physical violence?


bramzzoinks said:
Not really. The tobacco lawsuit was imo thin justification but it said that there was an increase in government paid health care costs because the tobacco companies said things in public different from what they new to be true about the health impact of smoking.
Here it is even thinner because the claim is that investors were harmed by statements doubting global warming made by the oil companies. What harm? Oil stocks are most impacted by oil prices. When oil prices go up they go up. When oil prices go down they go down.
The threats by the AG's is terrorism and extortion. Pure and simple.

You're really out of your mind. People like you are the reason people like Trump and Carson are leading the GOP race.


There is no larger or more successful extortion racket today than the State AG's. And I mean that seriously.


ParticleMan said:


bramzzoinks said:
Not really. The tobacco lawsuit was imo thin justification but it said that there was an increase in government paid health care costs because the tobacco companies said things in public different from what they new to be true about the health impact of smoking.
Here it is even thinner because the claim is that investors were harmed by statements doubting global warming made by the oil companies. What harm? Oil stocks are most impacted by oil prices. When oil prices go up they go up. When oil prices go down they go down.
The threats by the AG's is terrorism and extortion. Pure and simple.
You're really out of your mind. People like you are the reason people like Trump and Carson are leading the GOP race.


or he's trolling us.


That tactic again.

But democracy is dead when prosecutors begin operating as a criminal organization to further their gain and the power of the state to stifle opposition. And that is where we are today.


ml1 said:
ParticleMan said:


bramzzoinks said:
Not really. The tobacco lawsuit was imo thin justification but it said that there was an increase in government paid health care costs because the tobacco companies said things in public different from what they new to be true about the health impact of smoking.
Here it is even thinner because the claim is that investors were harmed by statements doubting global warming made by the oil companies. What harm? Oil stocks are most impacted by oil prices. When oil prices go up they go up. When oil prices go down they go down.
The threats by the AG's is terrorism and extortion. Pure and simple.
You're really out of your mind. People like you are the reason people like Trump and Carson are leading the GOP race.

or he's trolling us.

There was a time I believed that.


bramzzoinks said:
Not really. The tobacco lawsuit was imo thin justification but it said that there was an increase in government paid health care costs because the tobacco companies said things in public different from what they new to be true about the health impact of smoking.
Here it is even thinner because the claim is that investors were harmed by statements doubting global warming made by the oil companies. What harm? Oil stocks are most impacted by oil prices. When oil prices go up they go up. When oil prices go down they go down.
The threats by the AG's is terrorism and extortion. Pure and simple.

Des your OP still stand if the harmed investors are mostly conservatives?


ml1 said:
ParticleMan said:


bramzzoinks said:
Not really. The tobacco lawsuit was imo thin justification but it said that there was an increase in government paid health care costs because the tobacco companies said things in public different from what they new to be true about the health impact of smoking.
Here it is even thinner because the claim is that investors were harmed by statements doubting global warming made by the oil companies. What harm? Oil stocks are most impacted by oil prices. When oil prices go up they go up. When oil prices go down they go down.
The threats by the AG's is terrorism and extortion. Pure and simple.
You're really out of your mind. People like you are the reason people like Trump and Carson are leading the GOP race.

or he's trolling us.

Fine line between lunacy and trolling.


bramzzoinks said:
There is no larger or more successful extortion racket today than the State AG's. And I mean that seriously.

I think State Attorney Generals come in around 6th after 5 Somali pirates and Boko Haram.


Woot said:
Fine line between lunacy and trolling. 

Quite right, and they are functionally equivalent. It doesn't matter which a person is. We can treat him the same.



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