NJ COVID-19 Testing rant: a sick joke, unfit for purpose

jfinnegan said:

My cousin is a doctor in RI. He said the big problem is the lack of testing. They have to assume everybody coming in is positive and so it causes them to go through more PPE than would be needed if they were able to do tests. He said he is at least 60% likely to get it, because he won't have the appropriate equipment when he has to intubate somebody. 

I don't get it.

What difference does it make on the need for PPE considering that before a test you don't know? Whether you can test or not doesn't matter because you can't assume that they are negative. You need to have PPE on before you test.


BG9 said:

I don't get it.

What difference does it make on the need for PPE considering that before a test you don't know? Whether you can test or not doesn't matter because you can't assume that they are negative. You need to have PPE on before you test.

Yes, you are right.


BG9 said:

jmitw said:

doctors can come out to the cars to do the test...just like the drive thru places.

You ever see how busy a doctor is caring for patients?

You expect them to scrub up in protective gear and leave their office to go to your car? Do you then expect them to remove their possibly infected gear so they can reenter the office? Not practical.

 not anymore....they are only taking urgent appointments that can't be postponed....i will be getting my meds refilled without an office visit..only if you have to actually be evaluated for an illness are most docs taking patients...they could set aside a specific time frame..ie 1st thing in the morning or last hour of the day for covid testing.

how do you think they will test if you go IN to the office...they will have to have a section tented off, still done protective gear, etc.

and no, I don't often see docs caring...most run in talk fast, run out and send a bill.....without caring...


Formerlyjerseyjack said:

BG9 said:

You ever see how busy a doctor is caring for patients?

You expect them to scrub up in protective gear and leave their office to go to your car? Do you then expect them to remove their possibly infected gear so they can reenter the office? Not practical.

 Do physicians not scrub up and don protective gear between in office visits? If so, what would be the difference between doing so for inside vs outside?

 difference would be patient is not going into the building and exposing others/leaving germs inside


jmitw said:

 not anymore....they are only taking urgent appointments that can't be postponed....

Many doctors are still seeing patients, just not in person when possible.  My son just had his 6 week follow up with the Pediatric orthopedist via a virtual visit.  

My husband just had an appointment with our primary care physician also with a virtual visit.  


jmitw said:

doctors can come out to the cars to do the test...just like the drive thru places.

 What does one do if one doesn't drive or drives but doesn't have access to a car?


joan_crystal said:

jmitw said:

doctors can come out to the cars to do the test...just like the drive thru places.

 What does one do if one doesn't drive or drives but doesn't have access to a car?

 Its not a concern. Private office doctors will not be doing that.


BG9 said:

I don't get it.

What difference does it make on the need for PPE considering that before a test you don't know? Whether you can test or not doesn't matter because you can't assume that they are negative. You need to have PPE on before you test.

 When you are testing there aren't fluids flying all over the room. I watched a video this weekend with a doctor from Cornell in NYC who is only handling COVID-19 patients. He said he feels comfortable he won't get it because he is constantly washing his hands and not touching his face. I think the constant exposure and eventually a lot of healthcare people getting sick is going to cause a significant issue where doctors, etc. are going to end up doing things they haven't done in years, i.e. my cousin is a forensic psychiatrist. 


Something we already knew

And if you’re curious about how NJ stacks up in terms of positive vs negative test results, on the NJ Covid 19 dashboard statewide the numbers for test results are currently 18,696 positive and 27,077 negative 

https://www.npr.org/sections/coronavirus-live-updates/2020/03/30/824127807/if-most-of-your-coronavirus-tests-come-back-positive-youre-not-testing-enough


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