Movie Talk

One False Move was a terrific tense thriller with a smart understated theme about race.  Good catch.


Magnolia, Philadelphia, Singles … and the award for best movie soundtrack of the 1990s goes to:

Until the End of the World


bub said:

One False Move was a terrific tense thriller with a smart understated theme about race.  Good catch.

Only saw it once, but it made a lasting impression. I'll have to dig it up and see if it still holds.


I'm going to say something controversial.

The Big Lebowski is overrated.


ml1 said:

And this by itself could qualify as one of the great films of the 90s. 

Awesome. And the Beatles/Stones-rich music mix (with some very intense Harry Nilsson and Muddy Waters) adds to the intensity. Scorsese is an absolute master of selecting and mixing music.  The scene at the end there where Karen is dumping the coke in the toilet is sooo intense, particularly if you know what's coming later. 


yahooyahoo said:

I'm going to say something controversial.

The Big Lebowski is overrated.

What’s controversial? Everyone has his or her own preferences and non-preferences. (The latter, for me, happen to include Goodfellas and Braveheart. Maybe it’s the capitalization-deficient mashup of compound titles.)


yahooyahoo said:

I'm going to say something controversial.

The Big Lebowski is overrated.

dunno if it's overrated, but I certainly don't get it. It's ok, but I'd take Raising Arizona or Fargo over it any day.


I love it but I know people who don't.  It' not like you're dissing The Godfather.  I looked back its collective critical ratings on RT and while more than respectable, they were not crazy high.


drummerboy said:

yahooyahoo said:

I'm going to say something controversial.

The Big Lebowski is overrated.

dunno if it's overrated, but I certainly don't get it. It's ok, but I'd take Raising Arizona or Fargo over it any day.

The Dude abides.


drummerboy said:

yahooyahoo said:

I'm going to say something controversial.

The Big Lebowski is overrated.

dunno if it's overrated, but I certainly don't get it. It's ok, but I'd take Raising Arizona or Fargo over it any day.

This is being my answer.


DaveSchmidt said:

What’s controversial? Everyone has his or her own preferences and non-preferences. (The latter, for me, happen to include Goodfellas and Braveheart. Maybe it’s the capitalization-deficient mashup of compound titles.)

There's some non personal reasons for hating Braveheart.  It's a work that is utterly untethered to any historical reality, posing as a historical film.  On a personal level, I don't like it or its star but there was no reason to try to present it as a piece of historical fiction.

ETA:  To be fair, this sort of thing probably matters more to me and other students of history than it does to those doomed to repeat it.  cheese


bub said:

I love it but I know people who don't.  It' not like you're dissing The Godfather.  I looked back its collective critical ratings on RT and while more than respectable, they were not crazy high.

Love Lebowski.  I think being from the West Coast helps.  It definitely wasn't aimed at NY Metro audiences.


GoSlugs said:

bub said:

I love it but I know people who don't.  It' not like you're dissing The Godfather.  I looked back its collective critical ratings on RT and while more than respectable, they were not crazy high.

Love Lebowski.  I think being from the West Coast helps.  It definitely wasn't aimed at NY Metro audiences.

Are you calling us East Coasters unhip?


GoSlugs said:

bub said:

I love it but I know people who don't.  It' not like you're dissing The Godfather.  I looked back its collective critical ratings on RT and while more than respectable, they were not crazy high.

Love Lebowski.  I think being from the West Coast helps.  It definitely wasn't aimed at NY Metro audiences.

mostly I just get grossed out by Lebowski's white russian drenched mustache.


wouldn’t use the word overrated unless measured against other Coen bros. movies, many of which were far better.  In fact, let’s do the top ten Coen Bros. Movies.


10. The Hudsucker Proxy

9. True Grit

8. Miller’s Crossing

7. Barton Fink

6. The Big Lebowski

5. Blood Simple

4. Raising Arizona

3. Fargo

2. O Brother Where Art Thou

1. No Country for Old Men


and the top five worst:


5.  Burn After Reading

4. Hail, Caesar

3. The Man Who Wasn’t There

2. A Serious Man

1. The Ladykillers




    BarneyGumble said:

    wouldn’t use the word overrated unless measured against other Coen bros. movies, many of which were far better.  In fact, let’s do the top ten Coen Bros. Movies.


    10. The Hudsucker Proxy

    9. True Grit

    8. Miller’s Crossing

    7. Barton Fink

    6. The Big Lebowski

    5. Blood Simple

    4. Raising Arizona

    3. Fargo

    2. O Brother Where Art Thou

    1. No Country for Old Men

    and the top five worst:

    5.  Burn After Reading

    4. Hail, Caesar

    3. The Man Who Wasn’t There

    2. A Serious Man

    1. The Ladykillers

      O Brother Where Art Thou had a great sound track but number 2?  I'm not seeing it.  The movie was so disjointed and episodic.


      Raising Arizona is one of my all time favorites, yet I know very few who feel similarly. Just as many didn’t like it at all.  


      Saw The Fifth Element again last night, which is from 1997. (had to look that up, I thought it might have been a post-2000 movie) It has become one of my favorite movies. It's so exceptionally well made.

      And coincidentally, today comes the sad news that Bruce Willis is suffering from a form of dementia. What a great, unique star he was.


      drummerboy said:

      Saw The Fifth Element again last night, which is from 1997. (had to look that up, I thought it might have been a post-2000 movie) It has become one of my favorite movies. It's so exceptionally well made.

      And coincidentally, today comes the sad news that Bruce Willis is suffering from a form of dementia. What a great, unique star he was.

      LOVE Fifth Element. Seen it 8 or 10 times. What style. What gorgeous and clever audacity. 
      (Chris Tucker, who was so, so great in it, is doing stand up. April 20 at NJPAC.)


      Willis actually has quite the sci fi pedigree.  In addition to Fifth Element, there's 12 Monkeys, Unbreakable, and Looper.  I'm excluding the crap (Willis took the money and mailed in performances on a ton of crap genre pics) 


      Last night switching around on the TV I happened upon West Side Story (1961). I watched about 90 mins of it before I had to go to bed. It was so beautifully, stunningly moving. The choreography was sublime. The songs deliriously wonderful. I had tears in my eyes during the rooftop and school dance scenes. Every scene, whether a dance scene or not, was choreographed. Brilliant from every perspective. Why anyone would try to remake it is lost on me. I saw the Spielberg version and it was good, but this, this is, sublime is the only word I can come up with. Hey, I love The Godfather Part II, but this may be the most brilliant movie ever made.


      Saw Amber Tamblyn, daughter of West Side Story's Russ "Riff" Tamblyn, a couple of weeks ago along with her funny man husband David Cross.  They were guests on John Wesley Harding's most recent Cabinet of Wonders variety show at City Winery.  She's a writer as well as an actress and she read a poem.  She was funny and smart.


      I'm going to say something controversial. 

      "Best of" lists are overrated. 


      jeffl said:

      Raising Arizona is one of my all time favorites, yet I know very few who feel similarly. Just as many didn’t like it at all.  

      I still think it's one of the funniest movies I've ever seen. The scene when Hi goes out for Huggies had me laughing until I cried.

      But that's the thing about comedy. It's binary. It either makes you laugh, or it doesn't. There's a lot more gray with other genres. 


      ml1 said:

      jeffl said:

      Raising Arizona is one of my all time favorites, yet I know very few who feel similarly. Just as many didn’t like it at all.  

      I still think it's one of the funniest movies I've ever seen. The scene when Hi goes out for Huggies had me laughing until I cried.

      But that's the thing about comedy. It's binary. It either makes you laugh, or it doesn't. There's a lot more gray with other genres. 

      tried to get my kids into the Marx Brothers and Firesign Theater. Got no traction whatsoever.  Go figure. 


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      ml1 said:

      I'm going to say something controversial. 

      "Best of" lists are overrated. 


      We need to have a "Best of" the "Best of" lists. Why should they escape critical review ratings any more than the items they are rating? 

      ml1 said:

      I'm going to say something controversial. 

      "Best of" lists are overrated. 


      yahooyahoo said:

      ml1 said:

      I'm going to say something controversial. 

      "Best of" lists are overrated. 

      exactly  question


      Here's a list of movies that I remember as being from the 90s.  In no particular order, without regard to whether they're good or bad, leaving out all those that I don't remember, and including some from other decades that I misremember as being from the 90s:

      • Toy Story
      • Goodfellas
      • Office Space
      • Forest Gump
      • Bull Durham
      • Casino
      • Fire Walk With Me
      • Something Wild
      • Silence of the Lambs
      • There's Something About Mary
      • Star Wars Episode I
      • Philadelphia
      • A Bug's Life
      • Blair Witch Project

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