Maplewood Man Found Guilty Of Punching, Kicking Woman In Road-Rage Incident

proeasdf

See:  https://dailyvoice.com/new-jersey/essex/police-fire/maplewood-man-found-guilty-of-punching-kicking-woman-in-road-rage-incident/773938/

First paragraph of above article:

A Maplewood man faces up to five years in prison after he was found guilty of beating up a woman who he felt was taking too long getting out of a car [emphasis added], the Essex County Prosecutor's Office said Wednesday.

Just be happy that no one on MOL (that we know of) got tangled up with this fellow when pulling in or out of a spot.  Scary!!!

PS Victim was not identified.  Hopefully this conviction allows the victim to move-on.


tomcat

He faces up to 5 years, but what will the judge actually give him?


Klinker

tomcat said:

He faces up to 5 years, but what will the judge actually give him?

 If the criminal history of that nanny cam dude a few years ago is any guide, probation.


sac

I’m trying to understand how being slow to get out of a car is rage-inducing. I understand (although certainly don’t condone) anger at someone being slow to get out of a parking space or start up when the signal turns green, but getting out of a car?


BG9

sac said:

I’m trying to understand how being slow to get out of a car is rage-inducing. I understand (although certainly don’t condone) anger at someone being slow to get out of a parking space or start up when the signal turns green, but getting out of a car?

I do. Mental illness and/or stress. You don't need a reason to get someone pissed off.

Good thing we're not in some southern sh*t hole where anyone can carry automatic weapons.


mrincredible

sac said:

I’m trying to understand how being slow to get out of a car is rage-inducing. I understand (although certainly don’t condone) anger at someone being slow to get out of a parking space or start up when the signal turns green, but getting out of a car?

 Pure speculation: maybe her car door was open and blocking access to his car. He decides she's lollygagging specifically to piss him off and physically drags her out of the car and assaults her.


Robert_Casotto

any inkling on where this took place.  


quercus

BG9 said:

I do. Mental illness and/or stress. You don't need a reason to get someone pissed off.

Good thing we're not in some southern sh*t hole where anyone can carry automatic weapons.

 Example of a southern sh*t hole?


Klinker

quercus said:

BG9 said:

I do. Mental illness and/or stress. You don't need a reason to get someone pissed off.

Good thing we're not in some southern sh*t hole where anyone can carry automatic weapons.

 Example of a southern sh*t hole?

 I believe "southern sh*t hole" is the French name for Florida.


Smedley


BG9 said:

sac said:

I’m trying to understand how being slow to get out of a car is rage-inducing. I understand (although certainly don’t condone) anger at someone being slow to get out of a parking space or start up when the signal turns green, but getting out of a car?

I do. Mental illness and/or stress. You don't need a reason to get someone pissed off.

Good thing we're not in some southern sh*t hole where anyone can carry automatic weapons.

 Mental illness, IDK maybe. Stress? That’s no reason. It’s probably just plain old criminality. 


mrincredible

Everyone is inferring an awful lot from a very short article. Does this guy have a record? A history of violent behavior? 

Was there a verbal altercation preceding the physical?

I'm not defending what the guy did, it was clearly horrible. But we don't know anything about the circumstances other than what he was convicted up.


Jackson_Fusion

BG9 said:

sac said:

I’m trying to understand how being slow to get out of a car is rage-inducing. I understand (although certainly don’t condone) anger at someone being slow to get out of a parking space or start up when the signal turns green, but getting out of a car?

I do. Mental illness and/or stress. You don't need a reason to get someone pissed off.

Good thing we're not in some southern sh*t hole where anyone can carry automatic weapons.

 Since that would include nowhere in the United States I suppose you mean Mexico? Nicaragua? Where were you referring to?



drummerboy

Jackson_Fusion said:

BG9 said:

sac said:

I’m trying to understand how being slow to get out of a car is rage-inducing. I understand (although certainly don’t condone) anger at someone being slow to get out of a parking space or start up when the signal turns green, but getting out of a car?

I do. Mental illness and/or stress. You don't need a reason to get someone pissed off.

Good thing we're not in some southern sh*t hole where anyone can carry automatic weapons.

 Since that would include nowhere in the United States I suppose you mean Mexico? Nicaragua? Where were you referring to?

 Are you sure about that?


ridski

drummerboy said:

Jackson_Fusion said:

BG9 said:

sac said:

I’m trying to understand how being slow to get out of a car is rage-inducing. I understand (although certainly don’t condone) anger at someone being slow to get out of a parking space or start up when the signal turns green, but getting out of a car?

I do. Mental illness and/or stress. You don't need a reason to get someone pissed off.

Good thing we're not in some southern sh*t hole where anyone can carry automatic weapons.

 Since that would include nowhere in the United States I suppose you mean Mexico? Nicaragua? Where were you referring to?

 Are you sure about that?

 He's being a pedant. 


drummerboy

ridski said:

drummerboy said:

Jackson_Fusion said:

BG9 said:

sac said:

I’m trying to understand how being slow to get out of a car is rage-inducing. I understand (although certainly don’t condone) anger at someone being slow to get out of a parking space or start up when the signal turns green, but getting out of a car?

I do. Mental illness and/or stress. You don't need a reason to get someone pissed off.

Good thing we're not in some southern sh*t hole where anyone can carry automatic weapons.

 Since that would include nowhere in the United States I suppose you mean Mexico? Nicaragua? Where were you referring to?

 Are you sure about that?

 He's being a pedant. 

 I thought he was being wrong.


STANV

As usual a discussion will turn into semantics.


mrincredible

Concealed firearms (or in the vehicle) of any kind could have made this a much uglier situation. How about we start from there, and not quibble over a six-shot revolver or a 13-round Glock or AR15 with a 50 round clip.


Jackson_Fusion

For the “long on opinion short on facts” crew: find me the jurisdiction in the United States that allows “anyone” to carry “automatic” weapons.

Find me the jurisdiction that allows “anyone” to even own weapons considered Class III under the NFA, which ALL “automatic” weapons certainly are, anywhere in the United States. 

Wrong and strong guys. But you have opinions! And precious little else.


ridski

Jackson_Fusion said:

For the “long on opinion short on facts” crew: find me the jurisdiction in the United States that allows “anyone” to carry “automatic” weapons.

Find me the jurisdiction that allows “anyone” to even own weapons considered Class III under the NFA, which ALL “automatic” weapons certainly are, anywhere in the United States. 

Wrong and strong guys. But you have opinions! And precious little else.

 Like I said. He knows what BG9 meant.


Jackson_Fusion

ridski said:

Jackson_Fusion said:

For the “long on opinion short on facts” crew: find me the jurisdiction in the United States that allows “anyone” to carry “automatic” weapons.

Find me the jurisdiction that allows “anyone” to even own weapons considered Class III under the NFA, which ALL “automatic” weapons certainly are, anywhere in the United States. 

Wrong and strong guys. But you have opinions! And precious little else.

 Like I said. He knows what BG9 meant.

Serious people discussing serious issues as a moral imperative are careful in formulating their views and precise with their words when expressing them. Clowns aren’t. 

Honk honk. Nice nose.



drummerboy

ridski said:

Jackson_Fusion said:

For the “long on opinion short on facts” crew: find me the jurisdiction in the United States that allows “anyone” to carry “automatic” weapons.

Find me the jurisdiction that allows “anyone” to even own weapons considered Class III under the NFA, which ALL “automatic” weapons certainly are, anywhere in the United States. 

Wrong and strong guys. But you have opinions! And precious little else.

 Like I said. He knows what BG9 meant.

oh lordie, he's one of those.

my bad.


DaveSchmidt

Jackson_Fusion said: 

Serious people discussing serious issues as a moral imperative are careful in formulating their views and precise with their words when expressing them.

I endorse that standard. Let’s see if I can rephrase BG9’s comment to meet it, even at the risk of taking BG9’s point in a completely different direction:

Good thing we're not in some state where anyone who meets legal requirements, but who is also (like, really, anyone) subject to moments of impulsive rage, can carry a military-style semiautomatic weapon with a large-capacity magazine.


mrincredible

DaveSchmidt said:

I endorse that standard. Let’s see if I can rephrase BG9’s comment to meet it, even at the risk of taking BG9’s point in a completely different direction:

Good thing we're not in some state where anyone who meets legal requirements, but who is also (like, really, anyone) subject to moments of impulsive rage, can carry a military-style semiautomatic weapon with a large-capacity magazine.

Like I said I don't think the type of firearm matters, more the ability to carry it wherever you want. A flintlock pistol could have turned this into a much worse situation. 


basil

Robert_Casotto said:

any inkling on where this took place.  

Don't worry, not on your side of the train tracks


DaveSchmidt

mrincredible said:

Like I said I don't think the type of firearm matters, more the ability to carry it wherever you want. A flintlock pistol could have turned this into a much worse situation.

Just to be clear, I was only trying to remove any spritzing boutonnières from BG9’s remark so JacksonFusion could continue discussing a serious issue without getting his face wet.


STANV

Jackson_Fusion said:

Serious people discussing serious issues as a moral imperative are careful in formulating their views and precise with their words when expressing them. 


 It would be nice if that were true but even serious people discussing serious issues can be imprecise.

If I am wrong then you can count the number of serious people discussing serious issues in the world on the fingers of one hand, maybe two.


Jackson_Fusion

Who knew so many could fit in that little car.


proeasdf

DaveSchmidt said:

mrincredible said:

Like I said I don't think the type of firearm matters, more the ability to carry it wherever you want. A flintlock pistol could have turned this into a much worse situation.

Just to be clear, I was only trying to remove any spritzing boutonnières from BG9’s remark so JacksonFusion could continue discussing a serious issue without getting his face wet.

Better joke: Did you hear about the man who got cooled to absolute zero? 

Punchline:  He's 0K now.



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