Is This What Bi-Partisan Means?

Stanley

Joe Manchin, Democrat has endorsed Susan Collins, Republican, for re-election. Whatever he may think of her personally her re-election will help keep McConnell in power.

https://www.politico.com/story/2019/04/11/joe-manchin-endorses-susan-collins-1271151


Terry

Manchin is a Democrat in West Virginia. If he went all-in on Democratic people and policy he'd be voted out in a minute which would help keep McConnell in power. 

Purple-blue is all you can hope for in a state like WV. 


ml1
Smedley said:
Manchin is a Democrat in West Virginia. If he went all-in on Democratic people and policy he'd be voted out in a minute which would help keep McConnell in power. 
Purple-blue is all you can hope for in a state like WV. 

 it doesn't mean he has to endorse a Republican from another state.  he could just keep his mouth shut 


Stanley
ml1 said:
 it doesn't mean he has to endorse a Republican from another state.  he could just keep his mouth shut 

 He doesn't even have to endorse the Democrat running against Collins.

Is she now going to go to West Virginia and endorse him?

Perhaps Manchin and Collins and perhaps Murkowski should quit their respective Party Caucuses and for an Independent Caucus similar to what ex-Members of the Conservative and Labour Parties have done in the UK Parliament.


Terry

Manchin voted for Kavanaugh, so what do you expect. If Democrats need to rely on Joe Manchin, the party is in bad shape.  


ml1

they should at least be able to rely on him not to try to elect more Republicans.


Stanley
Smedley said:
Manchin voted for Kavanaugh, so what do you expect. If Democrats need to rely on Joe Manchin, the party is in bad shape.  

 Like it or not the Senate functions to a large extent on the basis of Party. The Majority gets to set the Agenda and pick every Committee Chair, who then runs that Committee as he/she deems right.

Manchin's self-interest as a Democratic member of the Senate is best served by a Democratic Majority. If he likes he can switch parties.

There is lots of criticism on here of Bernie Sanders for not being a member of the Democratic Party yet running for the Democrat Presidential Nomination.  But Bernie caucuses with the Dems and would be part of their Majority.


Mike
ml1 said:
 it doesn't mean he has to endorse a Republican from another state.  he could just keep his mouth shut 

This.


Mike
Smedley said:
Manchin voted for Kavanaugh, so what do you expect. If Democrats need to rely on Joe Manchin, the party is in bad shape.  

 I'll say it.  The party is in bad shape. 


Morganna

Susan Collins who delivered that  long horrid speech defending Kavanaugh. I'm hoping to see her lose. Manchin must be looking for something, a vote on an issue he needs her to support. Hmm,impeaching Trump?  A girl can dream.


FilmCarp
Morganna said:
Susan Collins who delivered that  long horrid speech defending Kavanaugh. I'm hoping to see her lose. Manchin must be looking for something, a vote on an issue he needs her to support. Hmm,impeaching Trump?  A girl can dream.

The house impeaches, not the Senate.  The Senate is the jury.


Basil
FilmCarp said:


Morganna said:
Susan Collins who delivered that  long horrid speech defending Kavanaugh. I'm hoping to see her lose. Manchin must be looking for something, a vote on an issue he needs her to support. Hmm,impeaching Trump?  A girl can dream.
The house impeaches, not the Senate.  The Senate is the jury.

According to the jury, the Democrats would be better off without Joe Manchin.


Morganna
FilmCarp said:
The house impeaches, not the Senate.  The Senate is the jury.

 Yes the House I imagine already has enough votes to impeach but the Senate would make the decision so if he had her as a yes vote on the conviction in the Senate....... of course they would still not have enough votes but that's where the dreaming comes in.


drummerboy

This makes me think of Obama's recent criticism of the progressive wing of the Dems. I guarantee he will never say anything about Manchin - even though Manchin's endorsement of Collins is a hundred times worse than anything the progressives are doing. For a member of the Senate minority party to endorse a member of the majority is about as treasonous an act against your own party as anything.

I mean, he could have just kept his mouth shut and endorsed no one. Instead he comes out and declares - "Yes, I want the Republicans to remain in power, and I'll even help them".

I hope someone primaries the crap out of him.


nohero

Who thinks that people in Maine care what Manchin says?




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