I REALLY DO NOT UNDERSTAND

I understand that someone could so hate Hillary Clinton that they would vote for Donald Trump. I can understand why someone adverse to taxation or strongly opposed to abortion might vote for Trump.

What I cannot fathom is how anyone can "love" Donald Trump so much that they can loathe a Republican who is critical of Trump.

http://www.politico.com/magazi...


I can't understand either of the first two items you mentioned.


I'm with Boomie. It makes my blood boil when people talk about how they hated Hillary. Even if you did, it will NEVER justify putting this monster in charge of our beautiful country. The people that voted for this mess should all be beyond ashamed. Truly among our darkest hours. 



conandrob240 said:

I'm with Boomie. It makes my blood boil when people talk about how they hated Hillary. Even if you did, it will NEVER justify putting this monster in charge of our beautiful country. The people that voted for this mess should all be beyond ashamed. Truly among our darkest hours. 

Fact is, "our beautiful country" did not suddenly turn. It's had a rotten underbelly for a long time. Donald represents the rot pushed up to the top.

And why do people love Donald? It. Is. A. Cult. No different from Moonies, Hare Krishnas, Scientology, or Jim Jones. They've been brainwashed by Fox News, and that was the goal.


no one said it suddenly turned. And none of what you said justifies what the idiotic masses of this country have done.



LOST said:

I understand that someone could so hate Hillary Clinton that they would vote for Donald Trump. I can understand why someone adverse to taxation or strongly opposed to abortion might vote for Trump.

What I cannot fathom is how anyone can "love" Donald Trump so much that they can loathe a Republican who is critical of Trump.

http://www.politico.com/magazi...

of course he would loathe the guy. How is American supposed to be great again if people keep criticizing Dear Leader?



boomie said:

I can't understand either of the first two items you mentioned.
conandrob240 said:

I'm with Boomie. It makes my blood boil when people talk about how they hated Hillary. Even if you did, it will NEVER justify putting this monster in charge of our beautiful country. The people that voted for this mess should all be beyond ashamed. Truly among our darkest hours. 

Have you read mtierney's posts? She says she voted for Trump as the lesser of two evils. Hillary Clinton has been demonized by the Right for 25 years. I know people who voted for Donald Trump simply because they believed he would push for tax cuts and Hillary would not. To such people voting for Trump over Clinton was just a choice.

What I don't understand is the "love" for such a clearly unlovable person.  Unless shoshannah is correct as she often is:


shoshannah said:


And why do people love Donald? It. Is. A. Cult. No different from Moonies, Hare Krishnas, Scientology, or Jim Jones. They've been brainwashed by Fox News, and that was the goal.



LOST said:

boomie said:

I can't understand either of the first two items you mentioned.
conandrob240 said:

I'm with Boomie. It makes my blood boil when people talk about how they hated Hillary. Even if you did, it will NEVER justify putting this monster in charge of our beautiful country. The people that voted for this mess should all be beyond ashamed. Truly among our darkest hours. 
Have you read mtierney's posts? She says she voted for Trump as the lesser of two evils. Hillary Clinton has been demonized by the Right for 25 years. I know people who voted for Donald Trump simply because they believed he would push for tax cuts and Hillary would not. To such people voting for Trump over Clinton was just a choice.

What I don't understand is the "love" for such a clearly unlovable person.  Unless shoshannah is correct as she often is:

shoshannah said:
And why do people love Donald? It. Is. A. Cult. No different from Moonies, Hare Krishnas, Scientology, or Jim Jones. They've been brainwashed by Fox News, and that was the goal.

Why, thank you, Lost.

The other reason is:  Stickin' it to the "elites." A big FU. Feels so good.



shoshannah said:


The other reason is:  Stickin' it to the "elites." A big FU. Feels so good.

Yeah, like Trump wasn't part of the elite.  oh oh

Trump was invited and went to the elite of the elite parties in New York City. Parties that someone like mtierny wouldn't even get in using the servant entrance.

Several days ago they had a little clip about die hard Trump supporters. Those who wait for over a day to get into a Trump rally. Wearing MAGA hats and Trump bling. Walking advertisements for Trump.

One Trump supporter said that its so great he's president because now the whole respects us. What world is she living on?

Those of you naively thinking you can have rational discussions with them, to change their minds - forget it.




BG9 said:


Yeah, like Trump wasn't part of the elite.  oh oh


Trump was invited and went to the elite of the elite parties in New York City. Parties that someone like mtierny wouldn't even get in using the servant entrance.

Do his supporters know that the Clintons were at his wedding?



LOST said:



BG9 said:



Yeah, like Trump wasn't part of the elite.  oh oh


Trump was invited and went to the elite of the elite parties in New York City. Parties that someone like mtierny wouldn't even get in using the servant entrance.

Do his supporters know that the Clintons were at his wedding?

I'm sure they don't. And if they were told - FAKE NEWS.

So Trump supporters, Hillary was invited to your hero's wedding? Were you?  oh oh

Trump's playing his supporters  like a cheap piano.


Trump explained that away already.  He played the Clintons.  Got them to give him a wedding present.



LOST said:



BG9 said:



Yeah, like Trump wasn't part of the elite.  oh oh


Trump was invited and went to the elite of the elite parties in New York City. Parties that someone like mtierny wouldn't even get in using the servant entrance.

Do his supporters know that the Clintons were at his wedding?

More importantly I want to know why they went. 


BG9 said:

shoshannah said:

The other reason is:  Stickin' it to the "elites." A big FU. Feels so good.
Yeah, like Trump wasn't part of the elite.  oh oh

Trump was invited and went to the elite of the elite parties in New York City. Parties that someone like mtierny wouldn't even get in using the servant entrance.

Several days ago they had a little clip about die hard Trump supporters. Those who wait for over a day to get into a Trump rally. Wearing MAGA hats and Trump bling. Walking advertisements for Trump.

One Trump supporter said that its so great he's president because now the whole respects us. What world is she living on?

Those of you naively thinking you can have rational discussions with them, to change their minds - forget it.

Actually, he usually was NOT invited. He typically crashed parties to which he was not invited.

Trump is just like his supporters, except with money. 



shoshannah said:
Actually, he usually was NOT invited. He typically crashed parties to which he was not invited.

Trump is just like his supporters, except with money. 

I don't want to cast Trump supporters into a basket of anything. I doubt they're uniform. And they are not as bad as he is. I don't know who is.

My family knows him. He's as bad as he looks.


I often wonder if they love him or if it is all about their disdain for "us". And "us" is anyone who is not them. His speeches at his rallies are filled with jeering at the media, the justice department, the intel community, the democrats, D.C. insiders, the Pro Choice feminists, an assortment of Republicans who ran against him, the Pope, Radical Islamic Terrorists, illegal immigrants,the coastal elites, liberals, did I leave anybody out? Perhaps he is just their carnival barker who points to anyone different from them as an oddity to be mocked.



Tom_Reingold said:



shoshannah said:
Actually, he usually was NOT invited. He typically crashed parties to which he was not invited.

Trump is just like his supporters, except with money. 

I don't want to cast Trump supporters into a basket of anything. I doubt they're uniform. And they are not as bad as he is. I don't know who is.

Not as bad as he is leaves a lot of room for evil.  At this point, I think it is safe to say, people who like Trump have their eyes open.  Time to stop making excuses.


Morganna said:

I often wonder if they love him or if it is all about their disdain for "us". And "us" is anyone who is not them. His speeches at his rallies are filled with jeering at the media, the justice department, the intel community, the democrats, D.C. insiders, the Pro Choice feminists, an assortment of Republicans who ran against him, the Pope, Radical Islamic Terrorists, illegal immigrants,the coastal elites, liberals, did I leave anybody out? Perhaps he is just their carnival barker who points to anyone different from them as an oddity to be mocked.

Which raises the question, what exactly do they want?


Trump could never, try as he might, fit in with the truly wealthy and powerful.  They find him, and always found him, gauche and uneducated.   Now they are just using him for their own agendas.   


Donald (and Fox) made it okay to be a racist, xenophobic, sexist, a misogynist, etc in public.  These people already existed and Donald empowered them.

shoshannah said:



conandrob240 said:

I'm with Boomie. It makes my blood boil when people talk about how they hated Hillary. Even if you did, it will NEVER justify putting this monster in charge of our beautiful country. The people that voted for this mess should all be beyond ashamed. Truly among our darkest hours. 

Fact is, "our beautiful country" did not suddenly turn. It's had a rotten underbelly for a long time. Donald represents the rot pushed up to the top.

And why do people love Donald? It. Is. A. Cult. No different from Moonies, Hare Krishnas, Scientology, or Jim Jones. They've been brainwashed by Fox News, and that was the goal.



BG9

BG9

 Jun 22, 2017 at 04:36pm

shoshannah said: The other reason is:  Stickin' it to the "elites." A big FU. Feels so good.

Yeah, like Trump wasn't part of the elite.  oh oh 

Trump was invited and went to the elite of the elite parties in New York City. Parties that someone like mtierny wouldn't even get in using the servant entrance.

Whoa, just a sec, when is such a slur acceptable in your world? My Irish ancestors who were the "class" you demean would be shocked.





Who made a slur? BG9 said servant entrance. Is that a slur against Irish Americans? Pretty sure she was using it as a metaphor for non-elite. Once again, d e f l e c t. Look over there!



shoshannah said:


Morganna said:

I often wonder if they love him or if it is all about their disdain for "us". And "us" is anyone who is not them. His speeches at his rallies are filled with jeering at the media, the justice department, the intel community, the democrats, D.C. insiders, the Pro Choice feminists, an assortment of Republicans who ran against him, the Pope, Radical Islamic Terrorists, illegal immigrants,the coastal elites, liberals, did I leave anybody out? Perhaps he is just their carnival barker who points to anyone different from them as an oddity to be mocked.

Which raises the question, what exactly do they want?

To be told that they are better than someone else,

http://www.snopes.com/lbj-conv...



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