At first, I thought this might be from The Onion, but no.

Donald Trump ‘Miffed’ That Events Honoring George HW Bush Were About George HW Bush, Not Him, ‘NYT’ Reports

https://www.inquisitr.com/5197861/donald-trump-miffed-events-honoring-george-h-w-bush/?utm_medium=referral&utm_source=yahoo&utm_campaign=homepage

tjohn said:

Okokokok said:

tjohn said:

nan said:
Bush had power for decades and abused it, starting with lessons he learned from his Nazi abetting father, who desecrated Geronimo's grave. 

 We all like how rumor and innuendo are presented as fact.

 https://www.nytimes.com/2009/02/20/us/20geronimo.html

 Yes, a good article on the rumor.  Of course, many Native American graves have been violated, but that doesn't make the rumor any more true.

 --or less true.

I read Geronimo's autobiography. His attacks on Mexicans and whites resulted from his cattle being stolen, several times. Teddy Roosevelt had to give him permission before he was allowed to write the autobiography.

Then there is Prescott Bush. That piece of $hit tried to take over the U.S. government. He was thwarted by General Smedley Butler who was invited to, but refused to join the plot. You can read about Prescott and the plot in the N.Y. Times archives. The story about the plot appeared in one or two issues in the paper. Then it disappeared.

my first generation father fought in WW1 in the trenches at St Mihiel, Chateau Thierry,  Arne, Meuse-Argonne, etc., remaining in France six  months after Armistice Day, under the command of the French Army. He met and married my Vienna-born Mother just months after his return.

During WW2, he signed the permission slip for my brother to join the Army Air Force before his high school graduation. He said he believed his son would have a better chance in the air than in the trenches. My father never lost his love for his country. And, he was a life-long Democrat!

mtierney said:
My father never lost his love for his country. And, he was a life-long Democrat!

 I trust that there is no linkage intended between these two sentences.  There should be no linkage, implied or otherwise, between political party and love of country.

Formerlyjerseyjack said:

Then there is Prescott Bush. That piece of $hit tried to take over the U.S. government. He was thwarted by General Smedley Butler who was invited to, but refused to join the plot. You can read about Prescott and the plot in the N.Y. Times archives. The story about the plot appeared in one or two issues in the paper. Then it disappeared.

     Sickening....but I find it no surprise that a group of affluent wall-street investment bankers and tycoons would do anything to grow or preserve their own wealth at the risk/expense of the general public's well-being.  Haven't we seen that played out in a variety of ways over the years, perhaps most recently in 2008-2009?   All the more reason not to support anyone for the presidency who is one of them or who is beholden to them.

     Actually, I tend to believe it is the interplay between three powerful groups that collectively shapes U.S. policy and social conditions in our nation:  (1) The elected government in Washington, (2) the financial industry, and (3) the media industry.  I might have once said the military-industrial complex was the fourth and formal religious organizations the fifth....not sure either still has such sway.  I just don't assume it's only our elected officials who determine policy and actions.  Each of these groups has an inordinate power to influence the direction of our nation.   What is not so powerful is the will and interests of "the people"..too amorphous and disorganized to exert focused power except in elections. And even then, the other two groups do all they can to influence those elections.

    Wow... I must sound like a paranoid conspiracy theorist.  Time for my meds.

Which is why, at the end of the day, I wish we had a powerful  labor movement - to act as a check and balance.

mtierney said:
My father never lost his love for his country. And, he was a life-long Democrat!

 seriously?

tjohn said:
At first, I thought this might be from The Onion, but no.

Donald Trump ‘Miffed’ That Events Honoring George HW Bush Were About George HW Bush, Not Him, ‘NYT’ Reports

https://www.inquisitr.com/5197861/donald-trump-miffed-events-honoring-george-h-w-bush/?utm_medium=referral&utm_source=yahoo&utm_campaign=homepage

 Someone should tell Trump that there is an easy solution.

ml1 said:

mtierney said:
My father never lost his love for his country. And, he was a life-long Democrat!

 seriously?

 Sorry, the juxtaposition was unintentional. My point, made badly, was that my father and I enjoyed good chinwags over post war current events and often I would take opposing positions to make conversations interesting. Voting age was 21 at that time. My father was 44 when I was born, the youngest of his three children.

My father was active in the American Legion and he often took me along on Legion events. As a young girl, of course, I had no particular party affiliation, but I believe my father had his suspicions!  

Norman_Bates said:

     Actually, I tend to believe it is the interplay between three powerful groups that collectively shapes U.S. policy and social conditions in our nation:  (1) The elected government in Washington, (2) the financial industry, and (3) the media industry. 

 Its called, "fascism" and that's what we've got.

Interesting Theory - 

A Brief History of Everything That Happened Because of George H.W. Bush’s Insecurity

https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-features/george-h-w-bush-wimp-766076/

For most of his political life, George Herbert Walker Bush was basically the unimaginative proxy for other powerful interests. He was always the front man for the fellas at the club, be it Skull and Bones or the CIA (he retains the dubious distinction of being the only spy head to become president). He excelled in this brute-behind-the-scenes role.

But once fashioning himself as something other than Ronald Reagan’s wingman, politics demanded he offer the national public glimpses of his personality. Sadly, he was president before he found out he didn’t really have one.

This would have been fine, if he’d been a more confident person. But Bush was not satisfied to be remembered as a dull imperial steward, and his flailing efforts to carve out a macho personal myth on par with Reagan or Kennedy marred both his presidency and large swaths of the planet.

Unable to let insults stand, he dreamed up stunt after stunt in an attempt to counter Heathers-style media taunts that grew out of inside jokes circulated in Washington during the Reagan years.

His presidency turned into an endless cycle: Bush would do something goofy/out of touch, the press would bash his brains in for it and he’d overreact, often by having someone bombed or jailed.

Here are the top five moments in this progression:

tjohn said:
Which is why, at the end of the day, I wish we had a powerful  labor movement - to act as a check and balance.

 It goes far deeper than that.  I have printed versions of this before.

Since the tremendous weakening  of the Organized Labor in the past 20 years,  what has happened to the real buying power of the American paycheck.

In 40 years as labor, with two parents as shop stewards in their respective industries.......I have never, ever seen the bargaining unit for management say  "well guys we had a great year".  How much in the way of increments do you want this time.

The Preamble to the Constitution of the Industrial Workers of the World states clearly..."Labor and Management have nothing in common.  Words bound to scare every liberal Dem who can read

Of course since The Government jailed all Wobbly leaders because the Union opposed US entry into World War 1 as not in the best interest of the Working Class.All so because it stood toe to toe with the Pinkerton's and the National Guard in strike situations.

There are a few chapters here and there.  Many engaged in seeking higher wages for Starbucks workers and in fact organizing whole chapters

I can only say "Thank you God"  Did you think I was going to collect stamps ?.

For the One Big Union

nan said:

He was always the front man for the fellas at the club ... He excelled in this brute-behind-the-scenes role.

?

gerritn said:
Just saw today's proceedings: five presidents and a piece of sh-t

 Actually, they are all pieces of sh-t, but Trump glorifies sh-t and makes it obvious.  

The McCain and Bush Death Tours: Establishment Rituals in How to be a Proper Ruler

The prolonged nationally televised commemorations of the racist, corporatist, and imperialist killers John McCain and George H.W. Bush – both privileged sons of the United States military industrial complex – have been nauseating for any decent and historically knowledgeable human being to behold.  But the national rituals attached to the deaths of these monstrous butchers have also been very instructive in the age of Trump.

Following the nation’s so-called mainstream media during the Trump years, you might almost think it has become anti-establishment and anti-authoritarian.  Outside FOX and other right-wing outlets that function as de factoTrump state media, the reigning U.S. news and public affairs complex has been consistently skeptical, critical, and even mocking in its coverage of and commentary on Donald Trump.

What is wrong with Trump in the minds of the corporate and financial establishment that owns the corporate media oligopoly? Is it that he’s a product and tool of a corporate and financial oligarchy so extreme that three absurdly rich people (Jeff Bezos, Warren Buffett and Bill Gates) now possess as much wealth between them as the bottom half of the nation – this while the upper tenth of the One Percent holds the same net worth as the bottom 90 percent?

Is it that he has helped feed a Pentagon System that eats up more than half the federal government’s discretionary spending while tens of millions of U.S. children live below the federal government’s notoriously inadequate poverty level?

Is it that the ruination of livable ecology has continued unabated (to say the least) under his watch?

Or that the nation remains savagely segregated and unequal along lines of class and race with no protest or counter-action from the White House under Trump?

No. Those are NOT the problems that the wealth and power elite and its media have with Trump.  All those things were true of previous presidents, including both Bushes and the neoliberal Democrats Bill Clinton and Barack Obama. The major parties, the Democrats included, have signed off on record military budgets for Trump.

No, the main problem with Trump for the establishment and its corporate news empire is that he has not been properly cloaking the regressive and imperial American System in the false clothes of compassion, smarts, democracy, and “public service.”