Game of Thrones

Morganna
Red_Barchetta said:
 Isn't Arya's Nymeria out there in the wild leading a pack?

 Wasn't there a scene where she approaches a wolf, thinking it was Nymeria, but the wolf didn't respond? I wasn't sure if we were to conclude that Nymeria , like Buck in Call of the Wild, had returned to her roots or if Arya was mistaken.

OK checked a site that chronicles the 6 dire wolves.

1 Lady, Sansa's wolf killed by her father at Cersei's command as retribution for Nymeria biting Geoffrey.

2 Grey Wind, Rob's wolf who died at the Red Wedding.

3 Shaggy Dog, Ricon's wolf, killed by Ramsey Bolton.

4 Summer, Bran's wolf, killed by wights protecting Bran.

5 Nymeria,  Arya's wolf, who may be out there.

6 Ghost, Jon's wolf, living with the Free Folk.

ETA I've been working on a series of wolf drawings. Looking for some good white wolf reference.


librarylady
Morganna said:
 Wasn't there a scene where she approaches a wolf, thinking it was Nymeria, but the wolf didn't respond? I wasn't sure if we were to conclude that Nymeria , like Buck in Call of the Wild, had returned to her roots or if Arya was mistaken.
OK checked a site that chronicles the 6 dire wolves.
1 Lady, Sansa's wolf killed by her father at Cersei's command as retribution for Nymeria biting Geoffrey.
2 Grey Wind, Rob's wolf who died at the Red Wedding.
3 Shaggy Dog, Ricon's wolf, killed by Ramsey Bolton.
4 Summer, Bran's wolf, killed by wights protecting Bran.
5 Nymeria,  Arya's wolf, who may be out there.
6 Ghost, Jon's wolf, living with the Free Folk.
ETA I've been working on a series of wolf drawings. Looking for some good white wolf reference.

 Those drawings are amazing


lumpy

She did run into Nymeria in the Riverlands. 

I think the implication was that Nymeria could not live as a pet anymore than Arya could live as a Lady, so they went separate ways. 


Morganna
librarylady said:
 Those drawing are amazing

 Thank you.


conandrob240
nan said:
So, is Daenerys  going to kill Sansa?   And are all the people who named their kids after Daenerys  going to regret that?

No and yes. Khalessi/Daenerys was badass but mostly righteous and good with a decent moral compass for 7 years. We rallied for her and loved her even if she did a few vindictive, impulsive things now and again. But, now, she’s a full-on monster at the drop of a hat. In part because a man doesn’t want her. Boo!!!


conandrob240
lumpy said:
I am very disappointed with this season. Most shows stretch so so story lines a season or two too long. This show absolutely had at least another season  of story to tell. I don’t under stand why they are rushing everything now. The scenes looked beautiful but so many things don’t make sense. 
Knight King- all that build up and he never says anything and his whole end scene is just a dagger to the chest. By the way I thought winter was here? Why isn’t it snowing in the south?
Cersei- the witch told her she would be killed by the little brother, and she dies crying in a basement?  All that build up and her army is gone in minutes.  There was more screen time of Cersei complaining about not getting elephants than the army lasted on the field. 
The Mountain- The Hound said last season “ you know who’s coming for you, you’ve always known”, well no one came.  Kind of a lame fight scene, he looked like Darth Vader without the mask. I liked Arya and The Hound hanging out, but why travel all that way with her just to tell her to leave at the last minute. 
If it was so easy for the dragon to take out all of those ships, why didn’t she do it last week when they were attacking her. I wanted to see Yara come back for a naval battle and take out Euron. At least then there would be a hole in the defense to get the dragon into the city. 
Why was there wild fire blowing up everywhere? How could she tell if she was burning her own soldiers, and where did all those Dothraki come from? I can see if a few survived, but it looked like there were as many as before Winterfell. 
So many more things, I can’t believe they spent 2 years and this is the story line they came up with. It’s like they had a month to do a book report and they started working on it the Sunday night before it’s due. 

So, so rushed it’s silly. They knew the # of episodes left before season 7. There was no reason to cram it all in in such a nonsensical way now. So disappointing. 

It was a visually stunning episode, don’t get me wrong. Massive props on direction and cinematography. Thumbs down to writers of storyline. I did love the Tyrion/Jaime goodbye though. Unexpectedly touching.


conandrob240

I’ll add that Jon and Dany have all the chemistry of two wet noodles. Aunt and nephew or not, there was zero sizzle there. I don’t blame him for walking away. Meh.


Morganna
conandrob240 said:
No and yes. Khalessi/Daenerys was badass but mostly righteous and good with a decent moral compass for 7 years. We rallied for her and loved her even if she did a few vindictive, impulsive things now and again. But, now, she’s a full-on monster at the drop of a hat. In part because a man doesn’t want her. Boo!!!

 I think if you study her facial expressions, she snapped when Cersei killed her friend Missandei. But yes she was put off when Jon resisted her advance.  I think she feared the loss of his alliance more than the loss of his passion. She once said she felt nothing when she sent away,Daario Naharis the warrior who was her lover in Mereen. He didn't fit into her plans to be queen.

As for Jon,they don't really let us know what changed him.  The director didn't show us clearly what he felt when he first told her they were related two weeks ago. His feelings still seemed to be the same, but  in this scene, he hesitated.


GoSlugs

I am not a great fan of this season.  I guess there is still hope that the books will go in an entirely different way.  There are already too many divergence for them to end the way the show does.


j_r
Morganna said:
 I think if you study her facial expressions, she snapped when Cersei killed her friend Missandei. 

On this week's excellent Nerdette GoT recap, Peter Sagal argues that the dramatic impact of that scene was lost because the showrunners placed it in the previous episode. If the dots between Missandei's execution and the BBQ rampage had been connected in a single episode, he says, viewers would have been more likely understand Dany's transformation.


Jerseyperson
Morganna said:
 Wasn't there a scene where she approaches a wolf, thinking it was Nymeria, but the wolf didn't respond? I wasn't sure if we were to conclude that Nymeria , like Buck in Call of the Wild, had returned to her roots or if Arya was mistaken.
OK checked a site that chronicles the 6 dire wolves.
1 Lady, Sansa's wolf killed by her father at Cersei's command as retribution for Nymeria biting Geoffrey.
2 Grey Wind, Rob's wolf who died at the Red Wedding.
3 Shaggy Dog, Ricon's wolf, killed by Ramsey Bolton.
4 Summer, Bran's wolf, killed by wights protecting Bran.
5 Nymeria,  Arya's wolf, who may be out there.
6 Ghost, Jon's wolf, living with the Free Folk.
ETA I've been working on a series of wolf drawings. Looking for some good white wolf reference.

 The drawings are amazing. 


nan

Turns out there are a bunch of articles about how people who named their kids after Daenerys feel now.  Here is one example:

About Those Parents Who Accidentally Named Their Children After a Fictional War Criminal

https://www.theringer.com/game-of-thrones/2019/5/14/18622974/game-of-thrones-parents-who-named-kids-daenerys-khaleesi


Morganna
Jerseyperson said:
 The drawings are amazing. 

 Thank you. I'm working on Ghost.

I'm going to miss Game of Thrones when it ends so I'm trying to paint some of my favorite creatures.


cramer

Is Daenerys really a dragon?  Remember her stillborn baby.


yahooyahoo
nan said:
Turns out there are a bunch of articles about how people who named their kids after Daenerys feel now.  Here is one example:
About Those Parents Who Accidentally Named Their Children After a Fictional War Criminal
https://www.theringer.com/game-of-thrones/2019/5/14/18622974/game-of-thrones-parents-who-named-kids-daenerys-khaleesi

 Dopes


Morganna
cramer said:
Is Daenerys really a dragon?  Remember her stillborn baby.

 I thought the baby was stillborn because of the deal she made with the witch to bring Khal Drogo back.  She does go by the title, Mother of Dragons and she did go into the fire with the eggs and come out with dragons so, maybe a winged beastie in her background. You never know with those Targaryons.


Klinker

What drives me nuts is the fact that Jon has never articulated why he won't be with her.  Is it the closeness of the familial relationship?  I am assuming that is the case but given the fact that they live in a country where Kings have married their sister for hundreds of years, it is a little hard to see how this would be a concern.


Morganna
Klinker said:
What drives me nuts is the fact that Jon has never articulated why he won't be with her.  Is it the closeness of the familial relationship?  I am assuming that is the case but given the fact that they live in a country where Kings have married their sister for hundreds of years, it is a little hard to see how this would be a concern.

 Tyrion suggested that to Varys but the response from Varys was that Jon was raised as a Stark. Agreed it would be great to hear it verbalized but he seems like a man of few words. He is also not one for the royal court. Better suited for his Wilding Ygritte.


librarylady
Morganna said:


 Better suited for his Wilding Ygritte.

 So better suited he married her (IRL at least)!!


cramer
librarylady said:


Morganna said:

 Better suited for his Wilding Ygritte.
 So better suited he married her (IRL at least)!!

 

Image result for jon snow marries ygritte


conandrob240

that was truly awful. 


Morganna

It felt like they jammed about 3 episodes into one. And what was up with the editing? A scene ends with a blackout and we jump to who knows where and when.

Well, it was fun while it lasted.


librarylady

Bran? Really? Yuck!!  


conandrob240

seriously. Bran didn’t even play the game. Two much more capable women on either side of him. boo. Stupid ending for Jon too. 


So many questions: what’s the need now for the Nights Watch if the undead army is destroyed? Where did Drogon go? Who told everyone that Jon killed Dany (do dragons speak?) Didn’t anyone (the people) know or care who Jon really was? What was the reaction towards Dany from the people after the bloodbath? (I’m having trouble understanding why most would be mad she was dead after what she did.) Didn’t Bran “see” all this? If so, why didn’t he stop Dany? If not, I guess he isn’t all that powerful.


Best tweet reaction I saw- if it was so easy and quick to sit around and nominate a king, why did I spend 10 years watching people battle it out?


Props the beautiful image/shooting of Dany coming to the top of those stairs where it looked like she had Drogon’s wings. Simply gorgeous.


StarbellySneetch

At least Jon finally pet Ghost. 


nohero

Not a viewer of the show (I follow recaps just so I know what people are talking about), and I heard something amusing on NPR this morning.

They did a segment on the GoT finale.  They warned their audience that there would be spoilers, and then the co-host said that his fellow co-host had left the studio for the duration of that segment, because she hadn't been able to watch it yet.


cramer

Everybody lived happily ever after. 


nohero

I thought the last scene was a disappointing conclusion.


Morganna
conandrob240 said:
seriously. Bran didn’t even play the game. Two much more capable women on either side of him. boo. Stupid ending for Jon too. 


So many questions: what’s the need now for the Nights Watch if the undead army is destroyed? Where did Drogon go? Who told everyone that Jon killed Dany (do dragons speak?) Didn’t anyone (the people) know or care who Jon really was? What was the reaction towards Dany from the people after the bloodbath? (I’m having trouble understanding why most would be mad she was dead after what she did.) Didn’t Bran “see” all this? If so, why didn’t he stop Dany? If not, I guess he isn’t all that powerful.


Best tweet reaction I saw- if it was so easy and quick to sit around and nominate a king, why did I spend 10 years watching people battle it out?


Props the beautiful image/shooting of Dany coming to the top of those stairs where it looked like she had Drogon’s wings. Simply gorgeous.

 Had the same question about the Nights Watch but Jon didn't stay on the wall but left with the Free Folk. I kept hoping Ygritte would appear by some magic. A gift to Jon from the Red Witch.

I'm sure the Unsullied saw him go to meet Dany and if questioned we know he, like George Washington, can not tell a lie. Or maybe the dragon dropped her?

Bran seems to be passive about everything, like all of the fantasy time travel stories where you are warned not to use your powers to alter the outcome. He even said to Jon when confronting Sansa and Arya "its your choice" referring to Jon's secret.

Yes, I was surprised Jon was punished for the murder of Dany. But Jon did have the aura of victimhood around him.

The reactions of the people to Dany's slaughter, the Unsullied followed her blindly and were active in the massacre, and I wondered what Dany meant when she told Jon that she freed the people from Cersei's clutches. Did anyone survive?

Not only was the dragon wing shot impressive, have you noticed how long they have been gearing up all of the players in black pleather.

 Cersei, Sansa, Dany and Arya, have all gone full tilt dominatrix.




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