Brings renewed focus to ‘No Drama Obama’. I sometimes wonder what goes through the living ex-presidents’ minds when they open their newspapers at the breakfast table. Sigh.
I think there's only room in the White House for one big mustache.
Ty Cobb is probably one of the least surprising departures.
I thought we were done seeing giuliani's crabby old puss, but it looks like we'll be seeing a lot more of it.
mrincredible said:
I thought we were done seeing giuliani's crabby old puss, but it looks like we'll be seeing a lot more of it.
Either that, or his admission last night that Trump reimbursed Cohen gets him fired. Which means there is a unit of time shorter than a "Scaramucci".
It seems like it's actually the reasonable thing to do. Stop trying to bs around it, state that it was a nondisclosure agreement in exchange for funds directly from Trump and move on. Then you have new footing to fight back against Clifford and establish the narrative that it was a private agreement which didn't involve campaign funds.
Giuliani could actually be good for Trump if Trump can handle letting someone else try and manage this without his ego interfering.
Morganna said:
Rachel Maddow's wall just turned a corner.
What a great visual.
mrincredible said:
It seems like it's actually the reasonable thing to do. Stop trying to bs around it, state that it was a nondisclosure agreement in exchange for funds directly from Trump and move on. Then you have new footing to fight back against Clifford and establish the narrative that it was a private agreement which didn't involve campaign funds.
Giuliani could actually be good for Trump if Trump can handle letting someone else try and manage this without his ego interfering.
Except this: https://twitter.com/gtconway3d...
George Conway, is Kellyanne's husband and a partner at Wachtell, Lipton, one of the top law firms in the country.
GL2 said:
Morganna said:What a great visual.
Rachel Maddow's wall just turned a corner.
From Newscast Studio back in March.
Maddow noted, after taking about two minutes to run down the titles of those who left, that she may need to “start broadcasting in an octagon so I can just keep turning to different walls.”
Steve said:
mrincredible said:Except this: https://twitter.com/gtconway3d...
It seems like it's actually the reasonable thing to do. Stop trying to bs around it, state that it was a nondisclosure agreement in exchange for funds directly from Trump and move on. Then you have new footing to fight back against Clifford and establish the narrative that it was a private agreement which didn't involve campaign funds.
Giuliani could actually be good for Trump if Trump can handle letting someone else try and manage this without his ego interfering.
George Conway, is Kellyanne's husband and a partner at Wachtell, Lipton, one of the top law firms in the country.
Let me see if I understand this, because I'm not sure. The hush money was to prevent bad things from happening to Trump during the campaign and therefore amounts to campaign finance fraud. Or at least it could according to some people's interpretations of the law. Is that right?
Steve said:
Except this: https://twitter.com/gtconway3d...George Conway, is Kellyanne's husband and a partner at Wachtell, Lipton, one of the top law firms in the country.
That opinion makes sense to me. The payment doesn't have to come from Campaign Funds. If without actually telling the Campaign I use my own funds to rent a space for a Campaign Rally, I have made a Campaign contribution,
so, if they had wanted to keep this on the up-and-up from an election law standpoint, Trump would have had to pay Cohen up front the money that Cohen would then give to Clifford. The way they did it constitutes a potential violation of campaign law because technically Cohen was loaning the money to Trump who then repaid him.
So perhaps giuliani's strategy here is to try to reframe this as a campaign Finance violation which gets Cohen in deep water, but steers Trump clear of charges that he is impeding an investigation.
Then if Cohen gets convicted of anything Trump can pardon him.
I am trying to get at the rationale for them making this pretty blatant admission. It seems to possibly incriminate Cohen but Shields Trump from more serious charges. I don't think Trump has lied about this under oath, just in tweets and to the Press.
Tom - one may not lend or give money to a candidate that is used for campaign purposes. Paying someone to not say things that would hurt a candidate constitutes a campaign purpose.
"NEWS: In a conversation last night with @DonnyDeutsch, Trump attorney Michael Cohen says "Rudy Giuliani doesn't know what he's talking about" regarding the President's repayment of the Stormy Daniels hush money."
https://twitter.com/WillieGeis...
Donny Deutsch and Michael Cohen are very good friends and talk to each other regularly.
It's funny, it all kinds of reminds me of Casey Stengel managing the 1962 Mets and lamenting "can't anybody here play this game?"
Not sure why some people think it's odd for Kellyanne's hubby to be so un-Trumpy. Seems obvious that he wants to maintain professional credibility and also distance from the sihthole his spouse jumped into.
Also Mary Matalin and James Carville.
Steve said:
Sheer stupidity and arrogance is my belief why Rudy said what he did.
Agree, unless it's cognitive decline, which is more understandable.
Then again, Comey's book replays the old joke about the most dangerous place in NY - between Rudy and a microphone.
cramer said:
"NEWS: In a conversation last night with @DonnyDeutsch, Trump attorney Michael Cohen says "Rudy Giuliani doesn't know what he's talking about" regarding the President's repayment of the Stormy Daniels hush money."
https://twitter.com/WillieGeis...
Donny Deutsch and Michael Cohen are very good friends and talk to each other regularly.
This morning Trump said that Giuliani "will get his facts straight" and that "he just started a day ago."
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