Accident at Jefferson and Maplewood ave archived

If anyone has any info on the condition of person hit by the car this evening please post. I was driving by and it looked like they were significantly injured. I pray that they will be ok

OMG another one? I passed an accident at that intersection earlier in the afternoon around noon. Prayers to everyone involved.

they need a four way stop there at the least..if they won't add a traffic light.

Corey

Probably the most dangerous intersection in town. Hoping the victim is going to be okay.


There haven't been enough fatalities for the TC to work on this problem.

eyetry said:

they need a four way stop there at the least..if they won't add a traffic light.

Corey


Totally agree with this.

Isn't there a blinking light? Or is it just no effective?

Yes blinking light but so many are confused by it and people speed on the street. They need a real stoplight period.

Hard to believe people still can't navigate that intersection with the blinking lights, etc. Are people just not paying attention?

People are just stupid. Always have been. Always will be.

When there is a fatality at that intersection and a lawsuit against Maplewood for negligence in not putting in a traffic light, someone will finally wake up in Town Hall.

This is insane. What part of a red blinker can you misunderstand?

My thoughts are with the person who was hurt.

lixouri said:

This is insane. What part of a red blinker can you misunderstand?

My thoughts are with the person who was hurt.

This.


stateguy said:

When there is a fatality at that intersection and a lawsuit against Maplewood for negligence in not putting in a traffic light, someone will finally wake up in Town Hall.


The municipality has to get permission from the State Department of Transportation for a traffic signal. Probably requires a study, a committee, a recommendation...

Prayers for the victim.


calliope said:



The municipality has to get permission from the State Department of Transportation for a traffic signal. Probably requires a study, a committee, a recommendation...

Prayers for the victim.


This too.

calliope said:

stateguy said:

When there is a fatality at that intersection and a lawsuit against Maplewood for negligence in not putting in a traffic light, someone will finally wake up in Town Hall.


The municipality has to get permission from the State Department of Transportation for a traffic signal. Probably requires a study, a committee, a recommendation...

Are you sure this is still true? It used to be that if a light was put up and had no DOT paperwork (and I'm told that many were) you could fight a ticket received for running that red light on the technicality that it was illegal. I believe @jerseyjack used this defense for more than a few employees who received red light tickets. But they got rid of that loophole in the 90's. I would assume that by making non-DOT lights enforceable they, by extension, were conceding that some towns were putting them up without permission, and if they hadn't been doing just that then the loophole wouldn't have been of use to anyone anyway.

Trust me, if calliope says so, it's true...

I hate this intersection and often go out of my way to avoid it...it's not that I can't figure out what to do - I worry about everyone else. Good thoughts to the person injured and the person who drove the car that caused the injury - they must be hurting too. awful.

There was a fatality there a number of years ago,Vivian Battzle, a realtor who had her office on Ridgewood on the Millburn line. Chris Danzi took over the office.

Awful news. I live nearby and go out of my way to avoid the intersection, and have done so for over a decade. Seen too many accidents and close calls there.

No one has told me this but I beleive a light would be a problem because traffic woul dback up the hill on jefferson. Total blind spot coming up and over and there would be rear enders all day.

the problem with the blinking lights is too many people don't know what to do. they stop on the yellow, which is its own hazard.

Is this the accident reported yesterday on MOL where a pedestrian was hit by a car at the intersection of Maplewood and Jefferson? If so, I am not sure how a traffic light would have prevented the accident since this was not a question of two vehicles combating each other for the right to enter the intersection first. That said, I agree this is a very dangerous intersection and that something needs to be done to make it safer. The signs on Maplewood Avenue stating that "cross traffic [on Jefferson] does not stop" can be confusing. I seem to recall that these signs went up as a result of a recent traffic study of that intersection which concluded that putting a traffic light at that intersection would make the intersection MORE dangerous for traffic passing through??? If this conclusion was correct, and i don't understand the rationale behind it, perhaps someone can suggest another means of making that intersection safer.

I heard that the traffic pattern is the way it is at the request of the Fire Department. The argument is that a fire truck would have a hard time getting up Jefferson if it had to stop at Maplewood Ave.

Not sure if that's true or even makes sense, just that's what I heard.

stateguy said:

When there is a fatality at that intersection and a lawsuit against Maplewood for negligence in not putting in a traffic light, someone will finally wake up in Town Hall.


What would be the basis for a lawsuit? The only additional step the town perhaps should take is to border each stop sign with blinking LED lights. There is a stop sign in Millburn like this.

In the winter time, if cars coming up the hill have to stop, many will get stuck if there is snow.

A friend of mine practically had her arm ripped off by an accident there around 25 years ago. This has been going on forever.

People blow through the stop sign - the really, really, really well placed stop sign preceded by warning signs and paint on the roadway.

It's been going on for years and I think the sign part has been well covered by the town. It's a driver problem, imo instead of concentrating on that intersection specifically we should have a zero tolerance rep in maplewood for texting and talking in cells.

No idea if driver was texting but likely was driving distracted or impaired.

I'm probably in the minority (though looks like above poster agrees), but I think our towns have sufficient signs for people to figure out how to navigate through. Sure, the corner is more dangerous than others, but that's why it already has more markings. Seems that hundreds of cars pass through it without incident every day, and thousands of kids have crossed it on foot.

Of course, I hope the person recovers fully and quickly.

The culprit is the driver who doesn't a) read the signs posted b) follow the signs posted -- and uh, nothing else.

The problem is there are too many asshats driving out here the other day a mail truck stopped at the intersection going north on Maplewood for like 2 secs... The car behind started blasting his horn...

I use to live close to that intersection and saw many accidents over the years, and have had some of my own close calls.

Several times over my 20 years the public has called for a solution.

Studies show that the intersection has a major problem that prevents a stop sign or light from being installed. The problem is the hill and the rise. If you are coming down the hill on Jefferson and you stop for a sign or a light, and another car comes down, they do not see you until it is too late to stop and you get rear ended.

Now the Twp. has made a change that Caused the accident.

The current signage is the result of a lot of studies and work.

But, this thread will rage on.

Later,
Da George

does anyone know how the victim is doing?

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