"(that) is what happens when Negroes don't read...(he) is the token Negro"

notupset

"(that) is what happens when Negroes don't read...(he) is the token Negro"    Maybe this is acceptable on national news coverage these days?  Has anyone been fired or banished or anything yet?   I can sort of understand this sort of banter among friends, in private...I am surprised this doesn't seem like a big issue on a supposed news network .   


finnegan

Guessing this is a Kanye reference? 

But actually, if you're going to start a thread to complain about a quote, it might be a good idea to cite a source....


LOST

I Googled. I should have known better.

The person using this "term of art" was Black. 

There were companies that would hire one Black person to show how non-racist they were. Just like there were all WASP law firms that would have a "token Jew".



South

It's only a matter of time until someone explains to us that Kanye West won't "stay on the Democrat plantation".


Robert

Lost, is it ok that a Black used a "term of art" like "token Negro" on CNN?   



South

Actual picture from Kanye West's visit to Oval Office. 


Ridley
notupset said:
"(that) is what happens when Negroes don't read...(he) is the token Negro"    Maybe this is acceptable on national news coverage these days?  Has anyone been fired or banished or anything yet?   I can sort of understand this sort of banter among friends, in private...I am surprised this doesn't seem like a big issue on a supposed news network .   

 You sound upset


dave23

Remember that time Obama invited a rapper into the Oval Office and the guest dropped the word mother----er? Man, Republicans were upset.


drummerboy

why are we upset? I'm confused.


DaveSchmidt
notupset said:
I am surprised this doesn't seem like a big issue on a supposed news network . 
Anthem said:
Lost, is it ok that a Black used a "term of art" like "token Negro" on CNN? 

Can you elaborate on why it should be a big issue, or why it’s not OK?


South
drummerboy said:
why are we upset? I'm confused.

 Sputnik News says so.

US President Donald Trump met with two prominent musicians on Thursday — Kanye West and Kid Rock — when signing the Music Modernization Act. West, it seems, broke the internet with his remarks, which were derided by journalists as "incoherent." While West's remarks were at times bizarre, slightly misogynist and, let's say, braggadocious, he used the opportunity to address real issues, displaying a dedication to talking about important topics like prison reform, a responsibility which mainstream journalists have largely reneged on.
While some of the hip-hop star's remarks were indeed difficult to understand and perhaps nonsensical, it is important to remember that he is a performer. Other issues the musician spoke about — often using metaphor — showed that West is a lot more politically astute than standard characterizations of him acknowledge.

https://sputniknews.com/analysis/201810111068810606-Kanye-Wests-Insightful-Mockery-Derision/


ml1
Anthem said:
Lost, is it ok that a Black used a "term of art" like "token Negro" on CNN?   

 is it OK to call the commentator "a black"?

Fwiw, the reactions are of course going to be  different when black people are referring to other black people than if a a white person had said that. 

IMHO it was more problematic that they made fun of West for being treated for mental illness. 


South
ml1 said:


Anthem said:
Lost, is it ok that a Black used a "term of art" like "token Negro" on CNN?   
 is it OK to call the commentator "a black"?

Talk about irony.  


Marie

PC is making folks tongue-tied.


If I have offended any tongue-tied persons, I apologize.


ml1
South_Mountaineer said:
Actual picture from Kanye West's visit to Oval Office. 

 are those the crappiest-looking hats ever?

Leaving aside the slogan, I wouldn't be caught dead wearing something like that.


Philip

i watched the whole clip of his Whitehouse rant and he is a confused man but what I wonder is what was Jim Brown doing there - assume he was there for the prison reform - because that was bad optics for a man whose whole life is activism 


ml1

I think the thing that a lot of people are reacting to is that West keeps going around saying the 13th Amendment needs to be repealed because he thinks it permits slavery instead of abolishing it.


yahooyahoo
hoops said:
i watched the whole clip of his Whitehouse rant and he is a confused man but what I wonder is what was Jim Brown doing there - assume he was there for the prison reform - because that was bad optics for a man whose whole life is activism 

I'm very disappointed in Jim Brown. As you point out, he's been a vocal activist for several decades.  I don't understand his affinity for Trump.  Meetings like this are destroying Brown's legacy.


DaveSchmidt

An interesting, ambivalent essay on Jim Brown by James Wolcott this month:

Brown is so dug-in today that he’s being swamped by problems long-brewing. Karma has caught up with him. As with Bill Cosby, the good that Brown has done, the accomplishments he’s racked up for over half a century, have become tainted items. Even Black Superman can’t control the formation of opinion or the dishwater churn of social media. A headline on the website Deadspin put it starkly: “Jim Brown Did Great Things; He Also Beat Women.”

https://www.nybooks.com/articles/2018/10/11/jim-brown-superman-feet-clay/


Joseph

Look, the guy's obviously very talented and also somewhat erratic and previously diagnosed as bipolar (as I mentioned in another thread). As such, in public he should perform on a stage, not in the Oval Office, where he delivered an embarrassing rant (and followed that up with a tabletop performance at an Apple Store).

The blame for this humiliation falls squarely on the Idiot in Charge.


Joseph

New York Times reporter Maggie Haberman told CNN on Friday that Kanye’s Oval Office meeting with Donald Trump did not go over well with White House staff, who were left feeling “hugely embarrassed” for the “speechless and confused” president.

“This was very much a Jared Kushner show,” said Haberman. “Kushner brought Kanye West in to talk about prison reform and job opportunities for inmates after they get out of prison and then this lunch was put on the president’s calendar.”

rawstory.com


Joseph

Jared Kushner - "hidden genius."


Joseph

...the guy who almost blew the family fortune on 666 and then traveled the world looking for help.


ml1
GL2 said:

“speechless and confused” president.

Trevor Noah said it was Trump feeling the way Trump makes the rest of us feel every day. 

 


apple44
GL2 said:

New York Times reporter Maggie Haberman told CNN on Friday that Kanye’s Oval Office meeting with Donald Trump did not go over well with White House staff, who were left feeling “hugely embarrassed” for the “speechless and confused” president.

When is there a day that the White House staff isn't "hugely embarrassed"?

Actually I thought it was smart of Trump to say as little as possible.


cramer

"Kanye & Trump. 2 self-obsessed BS mongers peddling bread & circus clown shows while Americans scavenge for bits of their lives, if they can, after rocked by a ‘Chinese hoax.’ And the press hover like vultures to eat it all. If you build it, it will come. Tomorrow comes too. Nov 6"

https://twitter.com/jfreewright/status/1050539475531632645


Joseph

apple44: Well, I think he was as baffled as everyone else.



Joseph
cramer said:

"Kanye & Trump. 2 self-obsessed BS mongers peddling bread & circus clown shows while Americans scavenge for bits of their lives, if they can, after rocked by a ‘Chinese hoax.’ And the press hover like vultures to eat it all. If you build it, it will come. Tomorrow comes too. Nov 6"
https://twitter.com/jfreewright/status/1050539475531632645

 Yes, and one is president of the U.S. and the other is a music artist who gained great wealth and fame all on his own.


LOST
mtierney said:
PC is making folks tongue-tied.


If I have offended any tongue-tied persons, I apologize.

 Were we better off when a member of the President's Cabinet could say something like this?

http://www.thisdayinquotes.com/2009/09/woman-two-jews-and-cripple.html



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